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Its funny how in a few years, these people suddenly 'remembered' being macedonian after 20 centuries of not remembering...

@mekong don't cry. Dring OUZO!

If you take a look,all Yugo provinces on those maps, are named after the main rivers running ,trough them.
So your silly article doesn't proof anything,except that you are a REAL albo. Because after your poor logic ,today Croatia should be called -Dravska , Serbia- Dunavska, B&H-Varbashka......and Macedonia -Vardarska.
Isn't it more correct,Voroupirots, to call you just "an albo"?! Nice,eh?!!

Mein lieber Gott, do you really "think" ,that I'm crying,ehh, just-an-albo? Get out of your bunker,finally!!!

Say what ever you want. The fact is one. SLAVOVARDASKIANS ARE NOT MACEDONIANS. And yes. 1/3 of Vardarska are Albanians.

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First,I don't say what ever I want. There is only one internationally acclaimed languge-the one of LOGIC. So, do you dare to call Croatia -Savska,lSerbia-Dunavska and so on???! Do you?
Second.They might be not Ancient Macedonians,by any standart. But their country is called Macedonia and its citizens are Macedonian.Period.
In concern, again with LOGIC, since you call the Macedonians -SLAVOVARDASKIANS, would you accept the Greeks ,to be called Abogreeks??Since you know the ethnic composition

Since you know the ethnic composition of modern Greeks? The same like Macedonians,pff,what an irony,right??😛P But Macedonians do not mix with Albos,they were never ruled by albos,they don't have national heroes,leaders,prime-ministers, a PRESIDENT(!) that are albos!!Guess who does ,thou!!

Macedonia is a geographical and historical region of the Balkan peninsula in southeastern Europe. Its boundaries have changed considerably over time, but nowadays the region is considered to include parts of five Balkan countries: Greece, FYROM, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia (including the Gora region in Kosovo).this is Macedonia, skopjans have no right to call their country Macedonia

mekong whisky = serboman, macedonist and traitor!!!

@papaspanos,agreed on this. The borders of this region, as you describe them,refer to the Roman province of Macedonia.And quiet logically(!),ofc. Since Roman Empire is the constituting factor of Europe ,as we know it. The population of R. of Macedonia,lives there for what ,15-16centuries?So they call them Macedonians,quiet understandable. And doesn't matter,which ethnicity they were close or closer in the past.or might get close in the future.They call them rightfully Macedonians,as they prefer

μεκονγκ ουισκι= χαλασμενο βαρντασκιαν ρακι και τρειτορ.Ιταλια,Αιμος,Μ.Ασια,Παραλια Βορ.Αφρικη=Μεγ.Ελλαδα απο 5000 προ χριστου.Ως Αμερικη ο μαιανδρος.

They are a sovereign country,by any,BY ANY standard. So. Would you be so kind ,to advise me on which right ,you refer to,when you say ,hat they don't have the right of the name of Republic of Macedonia? And when we say right,we mean right,ok?

Helloo?!
Where went the albanian guy?! Aren't you go to address the points,I made? Aaa,I see ,this article is going to follow the destiny of all articles about Macedonia,that I comment on-they get deleted by their authors....

@mekong whisky, Because Macedonia is a greek name, it was found by my greek ancestors who used to live in the area, then the slavs came and settled in the uper region, they just happen to be in an area that was controlled by greece. Germany had conquered half europe during ww2, should all these countries be called Germany now?

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@papaspanos,my friend,a name is ..just a name.Republic of Greece doesn't owe it! There was a Ancient Macedonia ..when..25 cent ago??! So what? Greek language for for centuries ,if not more,was a lingua franca, so was Latin ,even odious Turkish.So is English.Names can be borrowed, even ethnicity can be borrowed (for variety of reasons). Many Christians have Jewish names ,you know.
Just to remind you how ridiculous this subject is ,let me add,that no one calls you,the way you call your self

Onomastic problem? AGAIN????!!

First Greek Makedonas King 800BC .Slavs and others arrive to Balkan after 700AD.

@mekong whisky, people get born and die everyday, the only thing we leave in this world is our history, i as a true macedon take it as an insult to see not-greek people garble and claim my history.

Modern Greece does not owe this name,for many reasons,I mentioned some.I can continue,thou.History,in general,and national histories,particulary,"belong" to us,only in the widest possible meaning of this term.It's NOT a property 🙂 Right? And you can NOT prove ,that Ancient Macedonians were your predecessors, instead of some albos,that flooded those land,before centuries,or even recently. Our ethnicity is constructed by the mass education(19th cent and on) and the language,we speak is just a

and the language,we speak is just a mean of communication(we don't OWE it,anybody can learn it,even an albo can and does).Yet these are the two strongest threads,ironically,that connect us to our "forefathers".

Some other time,we might discuss the names of all Europian countries, quiet an interestin)g subject,too.
But what Greece does to Macedonia is simply a state terror. They do some stupidities,too(claiming A.Greece's history)But it's incomparable....

tell that to the 1 million skopjans who believe they are descendant of alexander the great and made their capital the most famous circus in europe..i know we may not be 100% true descendants of the ancient macedons but we are both greek and share the same language, on the other hand skopjans have no connection with us, they are just vulnerable to propaganda

@papaspanos,they are trying,simply,to construct their national identity(as any other nation in the world did!!),finding a common ground for the both ethnic groups to draw their roots from.It's no secret, for you,that albos have claims on Al. the Great ,too. So it's a simple choice between war and peace for them.Ofc,the idiocy of what they did in the center of Skopie,is unbelievable and it will be removed, soon or later. So,war or peace?Albanians draw the line-Nato and Eu or war. war or peace?

Mekong you 're really so naive or what!? Your poor and innocent "macedonias" only want a name to be called and live peacefully ever after while greeks want to wage war on them and drink their blood? No other claims go along with the name? If you 're bulgarian it also concerns you... If every bulgarian thinks that way no wonder if in some dacades your (?) country is half of what it is... I understand that an independent "Macedonia" always served your cause but please don't you bullshit us...

@mekong this region was part of Roman and Byzantine Empires; Why don't they call themselves Romans or Byzantines;;
a part of this country is part of south Serbia, why don't they call themselves Serbs;
in this region are leaving now Serbs, Bulgarians, Albanians, Roma and Greeks, why are they made to call themselves "Macedonians" and they are not free to speak for their origin;;
There is a reason why Macedonian issue came up. Tito's Propaganda has done good job on that people.

@MicroKostas, naive?! Men, I made so many good points,and yet everybody is avoiding to answer them. Let's say again ,that today is 04.06.2012. 2012!! And ... to see Greece,pretending ,that is afraid of some territorial pretensions,based on the ridiculous claims of Macedonia on A. Greek history,is the funniest argument ever.Pffff,come ooon!! Greece is from long time called the Israel of Europe,concerning the armament disbalance and so on.Are you joking?

@MicroKostasIt's like a lion complaining,that there is an aggressive mouse in the same room.

And mekong since you are so truth loving I am sure you are spamming your "macedonians'" articles telling them they how crazy they are to believe they 're decentants of ancient Macedonias.

@gekaram,well they do not refer on the diferent Roman Emps. Their reference source is purely geographical.
@MicroKostas,you can bet ,I was.While we wee in different camps.
Can anybody address, the points I made? Well,I've been a little overprovoking to the author ,but ,men,his arguments are s t u p i d .

lol mekong such an expected answer!! Like there is no other regional superpower (call it the USA of the region?) really friendly to skopjans and albanians alike (yes it can be possible...) that acts as it is still an empire!! I thought that maybe you were sneaky but you 're naive indeed!

No,now it's you ,pretending naive,on this subject. Now,let me see you intelligent!So to say...Any argument....

"..Their reference source is purely geographical.." you must be joking. Have you seen resent photos of the main square in Scopjie???

@gekaram,come on .yes I did.It's discussed previously .Did you read the comments.

If there is good evidence that "the ethnic composition of modern Greeks is the same like Macedonians" as you say, then they should be called Macedonians by all means and join the rest of the Greeks inside the Hellenic Republic.

Ophh,Kostas,this was rhetoric, to our albo author.He says:"SLAVOVARDASKIANS ARE NOT MACEDONIANS. And yes. 1/3 of Vardarska are Albanians. "
And I answer him😒o what?! There are other nations consisted of albanians ,too! And the irony is, that your (Greek)nation is the only one ,such! And then i say that,nations are modern constructions,"abstract term" in a way.Ok? But is not an argument to dispute the name of GreeceOk.Actully ,Greeks dispute the name of Greece! c😁

They call it Hellas!! You know that?!!Gosh..

"And I answer him😒o what?! There are other nations consisted of albanians ,too! And the irony is, that your (Greek)nation is the only one ,such!"
Where the hell do they teach you that stuff??
Maybe such knowledge goes with the fact that you are the real Arian race...
Bulg...ARIANS!! Ohhhh, isn't that obvious!!!

Oops,do you dare ,to state ,that the only modern nation in the world ,consisted also of albos,is the Greek one?Ohoho,really?! eh.ok,may be italian,too.
But ,hey,only in Greece they were/are national heroes,national leaders,prime-ministers, or president(as the present one,you know)?? In which country in this world?!!!

My point was,simply,that author's argument is irrelevant. What does your rethorical/locigal school say about that?/! That "I pretend been aryan"?