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*rolls eyes*

Why does MDP seem to resort to negative articles / ads? There's enough positives going for the MDP that you don't need to continually reinforce childish and immature caveats.

So called "action" (none actually yet) aside; anyone can flood meaningless articles and hit the trade embargo proposal and call themselves a great. That's clear at this point.
Why not focus on actually being productive rather than insulting well liked players and other parties who you need to work with in this game?

cause there funny get a sense of humour and see them for what they are man. You may now pull the pickle out of your a** B.A

Yes all i'm doing is trade embargo's and meaningless articles. I'm doing nothing productive for the country. Sorry I couldn't do as good as last month CPF's endorsed CP candidate.

Your the type of player in CPF of why I will never throw my name into the hat of CPF CP endorsement next term or ever.

Yeah i;m running next month

I don't think I've ever found a Rylde article to be funny.
Tasteless, immature, and laden with grammatical errors that make my head hurt, yes. But funny? No.

(Pre-emptive you should see this comment as what it is, funny)

Foxfire has accomplished more in his term so far. You aren't there yet.

So we have delusional lvl 29 in charge of all our money. I feel safe don't you.

Plugson's requests of bonuses in most of his posts are unrealistic. If your to stupid to realize this article was sarcasm. Your stupid.

Sorry Rylde. I agree with Bryan Alexander on this one. All of his points, and Plugson is a great player.

Plugson is a great player.

and Rylde once we finalize ASGARD we could take Scotland from there to Norway and take over a piece of Latvia or something lol I hear great chicks over there

How dare you. Plugson is a hero.

He was a great player

Unless of course the ability to leave a critisizing comment while doing nothing institutes a great player.

He;s trying to pass the torch all you need is to grab it.

And still is!

There have been few untouchables in eCanada: Nosyt, Sperry, etc.
Plugson is in that category.

''Unless of course the ability to leave a critisizing comment while doing nothing institutes a great player.''

I think you're confusing him with Funky.

I like plugson, he's a legendary personality around these parts. I do have to agree with Rylde though, in the fact that he's turned into the new Rigour6. All talk, no work. Can't blame the guy though, he's done enough in his eLife and deserves to sit back and yell at the kids on his lawn.

I like Plugson to but you can only critisize so much while doing nothing before you get feedback.

+1 to Bryan Alexander

Rylde sucks

Rylde is right to point out that I am cantekerous and not all that cooperative lately. I intended to remove myself from politics, but I see that the only way to be apolitical is to be silent by not posting any opinion. I am about to break that rule again *sigh*

Here’s why I’ve been a curmudgeon about party branding and production bonuses…which appears to be what irked Rylde:

The political module lacks depth. All the major parties are very similar in the issues they support. No party has a different MU funding model to offer. No party has a different alliance proposal to chase after. No party is presenting a different tax scheme than what the other parties promote. If there are differences, these are small shades of difference than there once used to be in eRep’s vibrant political scene.

Yet, parties are very good at presenting articles that demonstrate their variety of logos and the characters that form their membership.

eRep's political module more of a social club. Not a competition of better ideas.

I almost feel that someone should create a party that actually challenges the boring norm that has settled into this game. Make a 'ProTWO' party or a 'CutAllFunding' Party or a...or a...well, that's about all there is to differentiate ourselves with: alliances and funding. There's just not enough variables out there to make a diverse political scene. (However, cutting funding or totally changing allies is just throwing a monkeywrench at the game rather than doing something constructive) As such, I don't see the need to invest so much time in party branding. It's not like different parties are actually trying to lead us in other directions.

We're pretty much set in our ideas as a group, which is a good thing. There's a clear course ahead of us now that we have set a) a new funding model and b) an alliance to join. Those were the 2 major issues dogging eCanada over the last half-year or more.

Now the only thing left to do that is interesting in this game politically is to design a way to fight an enemy that can give us production bonuses, or swap regions with a friendly nation to get a production bonus. However, I do understand that our position on the map makes this incredibly hard. It still doesn't change the fact that it's the only interesting thing left to do for eCanada now that we've solved the other 2 (or 3) major issues.

Perhaps we can find fun supporting our allies in their defense/conquest. That's ok. We’ve done it before and it’s keep us going.

Pugson is eCanada's ligtreb maybe.

Brian and Michael need to learn to loosen up a wee bit

Production bonuses are so unrealistic for eCanada its not even funny

even if the USA or whoever agreed to it do you really think we could hold on to it with all the RW's that would happen

NOT TO MENTION ALL THE RESOURCES IT WOULD TAKE TO HOLD IT probably negating and bonus we recieved and at the cost of helping out our new allies

we need to stay the course, grow the alliance, be a productive member, while at the same time trying to grow our population

@plugson

the CPF had a chance to be the party that challenged Asgard as the PP and a few other "leaders" were pushing for CoT

but Wil-at the-helm got all smart and stuff and steered the ship away from that

I thought Michael23 was going to give Rylde a run for his money with all his CoT talk

but nope

@plugson

I also agree with your critique of the game (:

From the comments above, I suppose this month will have to be a month of change in the CPF...

but yeah Plugson is a legendary player

Attacking plugson is like bitch-slapping Mahatma Gandhi

I loved bitch slapping Mahatma Gandhi.

Also, Plugson's analysis of the game is spot on. There's really nothing, aside from personality, to differentiate political parties anymore. So join MDP, 'cause we're the coolest. 😛

Welcome to the club Plugson.

There is no point for a party to push view just for the sake of being different.Especially if they don't really believe in it.

Join the CPF because we don't resort to name calling and labeling. (I mean funny articles.) We actually debate issues and try to work with all parties.

@Chrisfire There was no reason for me to give Rylde a run for his money on my view of CoT. It was my view not the entire party's. We didn't all stand behind it and as such there was no point to it. Plus, a vote was held in congress and a referendum was held for everyone else to decide. There was nothing to debate anymore after the votes were in, in either congress or with the public.

Time will tell though if we join CoT. All the nations that have been wiped have started to re-consider their options including eFrance, ePortugal, and eAustralia which I heard had joined or was rumored to have joined CoT. I didn't want eCanada to get wiped for months and then decide on the topic of CoT.

In terms of what we talked about here I backed Bryan since he was standing up for Plugson. I think it's ridiculous to criticize him. He's one of our best players and has the best interest for eCanada as well. I've seen him only positively contribute to discussions all over.

Bryan also had other good points about not criticizing other parties and instead of just sticking to positive mentions of things accomplished but then he was criticized and fought back. I supported him. He had a good original points and points of defense thereafter.

Without a doubt, Plugson is a dependable voice of reason. Rylde's point is that he remains a voice.

"eRep's political module more of a social club. Not a competition of better ideas."
@Plugson: It's because we all have the same idea of what's the "better" idea that this occurs. I would like to say more rather than a simple "'nuff said", but I think that's it. I have nothing to add to you or crisfire atm. 'nuff said... (for now?)

@Death and Taxes: Gandhi had his critics too.

@E😨 You're... a piece of lard! There! I'm MDP and I said it! Are you happy now? ;P
But seriously, labeling occurs, even if we don't realize it nor intend it. Bryan Alexander over-exaggerated the amount of attack articles coming from MDP. Based on the recent media, in comparison to other parties' articles, definitely yes, MDP has more attack articles, but we also have more articles in general including those that don't attack other parties and are aimed to support our party or the eCan community.

@Michael 23:
Re: Criticism - I think you mean another term like "negative attention" rather than criticism. Criticism is what tells people that this is wrong, and it needs to be improved. Not all criticism is constructive (e.g. "Rylde sucks"), nor respectful (e.g. Rylde's message to Plugson), but it can be.
Re: CoT - If you felt strongly about it, I encourage you to speak strongly about it. That's the point of a debate and being in congress.

Yeah Michael. We have to do the debating since that ability was removed from the heads of the MDP membership.

The joys of eCanadian politics : 3

I was just looking for a good reason to put the littlest hobo out

i think the big one is.... who gives a shit anymore?

everyone look at plugson's initial response and put something worth learning in your brains. that is all.

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"I was just looking for a good reason to put the littlest hobo out" x2 lol

For as long as I can remember Rylde's been "drunk" and has been going on "drunken ramblings" and the "MDP has been the future".

When will we acknowledged that these are but troubled fantasies?

@Octavian_F: Welcome back. To eCanada. It's eCanada lol

I don't follow eCan politics anymore but I think Rylde is a pretty cool guy and we should listen to him.

Voted for the littlest hobo. Well played Rylde. No one can resist the the littlest hobo