Forgetting the Past? Or Acting Differently?
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by Derakor
So I looked back on my old articles, and found an interesting comment that I wish to discuss.
I will quote what the person sai😛
Rigour6: "...while I take your point, I invite you to see the example of rl truth and reconciliation commissions. These are based in part on the notion that pretending the past didn't happen does not allow a nation to heal and move forward."
Now, I have seen the example of rl truth and reconciliation commissions, and how one should not forget the past in order to heal and move forward. That said, that's not what I'm doing. I'm simply choosing to focus on the true issue.
Rolo's past is known, and I doubt anyone will forget. But until we can get Congress back on board, and have Congress in a state of Sanity, or even have an effective and respected Judicial System, there is no point in us continuing this infighting that is crippling our progress.
Now on the issue of healing and moving forward, a certain perspective must be changed on what eCanada is using to proceed. This is what my point is, that eCanada. Most successful people that heal and move forward from traumatic issues regarding friends or family usually starts with voluntary forgiveness, even if one does not deserve or respect that forgiveness.
Doesn't mean he should get away scott free from his crimes. But that we need to proceed with a little more of a respectful attitude to all members of eCanada. It's the only thing that makes us truely different from those that would harm us, and the rest of eCanada.
It is the righteous thing to do. Those that disagree are blinded by anger, and a wish for revenge. Well revenge normally is returned with more revenge, next thing you know we get into situations like this.
Rolo isn't innocent, don't think I'm saying that he is, or that his crimes should not be continually unpunished, nor those of the Ex-Pats and exiles. I'm simply saying the attitude of eCanada on all our current issues are met with an attitude detrimental to eCanadian cooperation, and politics.
Instead of anger, we need respect,
Instead of revenge, we need forgiveness.
I want Rolo and the Ex-Pats brought to justice, just not a justice that is bent on revenge.
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Great point.
Justice is much different then revenge. We must find justice...not seek revenge.
We also must seek to hold people accountable for their actions and facilitate reconciliation, not permit irreverence and capitulate, or even worse stonewall.
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"Rolo isn't innocent, don't think I'm saying that he is, or that his crimes should not be continually unpunished,"
With respect, your Congress disagrees with you.
Do you want justice? Be careful what you wish for. Justice seems like this : Rolo must to pay back the gold that he has stolen and give back the parties that he PTO'ed with this stolen gold. This is justice. This is not revenge. When someone has stealing in RL from your house and you go to police and they punish the thief and force him to pay back what he has stolen is this revenge?
As I said before: this is a kind of moral.
I know you don't see it this way Rigour...but sometimes Congress must do things for the good of the entire community and not just a subset of that community.
There are risks associated with the decision. Sometimes there has to be short term losses to get a long term gain. I don't expect everyone to agree with the decision, but I am disappointed that so many see this as a knee jerk response paid for by Rolo.
"We also must seek to hold people accountable for their actions and facilitate reconciliation, not permit irreverence and capitulate, or even worse stonewall."
Leaving the nation doesn't really help now does it?
Also, your right, but there are more actions available then those set by anyone who has a closed-mind on the issue. As for Capitulation, surrendering your country and leaving to go somewhere else is more capitulation then trying to work towards a solution.
@Connor, yes, sometimes Congress must.
I think at this point we can stop talking about the "risks" associated with this decision and start speaking of the verifiable costs.
I for one don't think that (other than perhaps a couple of clear Rolobs in Congress) most of the Congress was directly bought. I think Rolo convinced them he'd never bend and they totally underestimated the reaction of those who would feel their values compromised by an unconditional pardon.
@Derakor: Not in the short term, it doesn't. In my own case, I don't think of myself so highly, nor am I the sort of military or industrial giant, that my leaving would hurt eCanada. I am amused if anyone thinks that highly of me. But even assuming my leaving DID hurt eCanada, in the way that any person leaving makes the team smaller and thus weaker, that was not my intention.
eCanada has made a decision as a team to condone theft and a course of corrosive action designed to decrease other's opportunity for co-operation. I have made a resultant decision not to be part of that team, both because I don't think that reflects my values, I don't think it will be successful, and I don't think it will be fun.
There is much talk now towards "working for a solution". Let's set a scale: on the one side, Rolo has to pay back all the gold he stole plus a substantial fine, issue a full apology to the nation, return control of norsefired parties, and promise to be a good boy going forward. On our scale, we'll set that at position 100 - where Rolo does all the bending and the rest of us do none.
On that scale, where would you set unconditional pardon, keep all you stole, don't apologize, don't release taken over parties, and make no promises for future activities?