eAustralia Choosing Allies - Its A Friendship Thing
Mr Crumpets
Good Afternoon eAustralia,
In the coming days Prime Minister Tim_Holtz and the eAustralian Senate will have some choices to make.
It's clear from this comment by the eChile President in a diplomatic meting with our Prime minister that we could be facing an attempted wipe on the eve of the next senate elections.
[17:49] give me some days to talk about the arbitration with our people... but with the arbitration forget we gonna help you with anything this month... we gonna do everything to you dont have congress, we dont gonna sign another treaty, and the arbitration is gonna be our last meeting
This means that eChile, Indonesia, the CoT alliance and the eUSA will be waging war against us.
We need MPPs... and we need them now... but we must be careful in who we choose.
The reality we must face is that we need to ally with nations that are not in or pro CoT. An MPP with them would be a waste of money and time.
For example, the eUSA is currently a no-no. We have been very loyal friends in the past, but when it comes down to it, they will side with the alliance they want to join. If they fought for us, a certain veto of their CoT membership application would happen.
We cannot be friends with CoT nations. Whether we like some of them or not, they will all put their alliance first, meaning aiding eChile and eIndonesia in their campaigns against us.
So now we must find new friends and renew some old friendships.
When I suggested eChina during my election campaign, the critics said well every other country is going to attack them, why bother being their allies with them?.
Ummmmm, guys... that's also our situation as well. Maybe you shouldn't think that way!
I believe in the opposite of what the critics are thinking. The best time to make allies (and more importantly friends) is when they are down and out. They appreciate that you're there in the trenches with them and helping them when they need it most.
Joining a larger, stronger nation has it's pitfalls. Yes they pack a punch, but so many nations are calling on them at once. It's a case of 'take a ticket and stand in line'.
Say you win Tattslotto. As expected, people you don't know or haven't heard of in ages will come up to you looking for a piece of the cash. How do you feel? Annoyed. Where were they when you had nothing?
That's how a larger nation feels about us. Always looking for something with nothing to offer ourselves.
However, if you did win Tattslotto, you'd share a bit with your family and some of your closest friends wouldn't you? Of course! They have stuck by you when times are tough, so naturally you'd reward them when the good times come.
That's why I preach the like of eChina, eTaiwan, ASGARD... so even if ASGARD is getting it's butt kicked now, by joining them in their darkest hour, there's no doubt they'll repay our friendship when the good times come.
So instead of looking for a short term with our MPPs, let's look ahead to the future a bit.
Remember, at the moment we have few friends in the eRepublik world and many don't exactly trust eAustralia (rightly or wrongly).
Let's sign up with nations that do need our help, build a good friendship and watch it pay off in the long run.
Mr Crumpets
Founder, Senator and Party President of the Green and Gold Party.
Comments
Let's help nations like us who are down and out 🙂
expected, CoT and TWO is same, China is EDEN member....time to impeach this gvt
this govt has made a massive blunder already only a week in.... IMPEACH
thats coming from a croatian alimilano
how did it feel when you backstabbed India? how about turkey with iran?
that is why i wont be going near EDEN as a whole with a 10 foot pole
So we will go back to the same position as we were in as we were with EDEN?
Back to having no country for months till our allies decided to give a hand. Which means 1 month of a country and Indo come back again.
Oh and also we will not be having USA on our side this time... So how will we win RWs?
You do realize that the biggest hitters of eAustralia are backing Tim_Holtz and his government. How will we win battles without them?
I looked under your skirt and liked what I saw.
So guys... who are we gonna make friends with?
It's called exploring your options, seeing what can work for us. Not to just jump the gun and run for whoever looks safest for us.
Do you know nothing of war in erepublik MC?
War in erepublik goes around in circles for us. We win a region in a major battle against Chile one day, to have them take the region without any trouble the next. So winning that major battle, spending all them resources was for what? Absolutely nothing.
Regardless what major country helps us against Indo and Chile. They can't always be there for us. All it takes is for our alliance to be busy elsewhere and we lose our regions again without any trouble from Indo/Chile.
scottty, the soft diplomat... who would think that after all his boastings, hehehe
... and Scottty.... how does a treaty, sorry I mean 'Terms of Surrender' with CoT nations help us?
They can break it at anytime. Worst still we lose allies for making such a deal.
You said Scottty... "War in erepublik goes around in circles for us. We win a region in a major battle against Chile one day, to have them take the region without any trouble the next. So winning that major battle, spending all them resources was for what? Absolutely nothing."
That's my whole point! War is ALWAYS going to come to our nation because that's the game!!!!!
The game IS about war!
It will help us build relations with CoT and it's members, also our neighbours. Then placing us a spot into an alliance that is in our oceanic region.
You don't understand. Why do you think eAustralia is such a small country in Erepublik? In 2011 Australia in RL had a 17,195,702 number of people using the internet. We can barely get what 200 actives?
Yes the game might be shit for some people. But don't forget in RL Australian's HATE losing. That is why we never got anywhere in this game.
Australia is always wiped by our larger neighbors. Indonesia stuffed us in Beta!
Yes, this game is about war. I love war. Just look at my profile. But being wiped all the time by our neighbors makes us suffer heavily on our population. People lose interest when we are always wiped.
to further add to that, when we had peace for 12 months in v1, we grew to the largest we ever had. we had 700 active players
why? because we werent conquered
Build relations with countries who want to occupy us. It's like a canary trying to build relations with a cat. I cannot believe these people were elected!
@Tim - Actually, we were at our most active during the period of Dec 09 to June 10 when we were FREED from occupation.
The 700 number under Indo population was a false number, as the game didn't remove non-active (dead) citizens then.
@Scottty - us being wiped by our neighbours isn't going to change. The indo president already made that clear. Whenever Indonesia get bored, they attack. Will always happen regardless of what diplomatic attempts you try.
Unless we are in CoT.
or TWO
no Mr Crumpets im talking about when we owned all our regions during the time after WA was first released and during the brazilian occupation.
we had 700 active players, Indo is uninvolved.
it doesnt matter why we were at peace but its 100% clear that being at peace = growth for us as a nation. actively promoting war goes against the idea of growing our nation.
and furthermore Australian and Indonesian politics are very similar they have vastly different factions. funnily enough your equivalent is in power in Indonesia, the ones who wont negotiate and want war.
@Scottty - we won't get into CoT - as explained, having four nations connected to each other on the same side (Oz, NZ, Indo, Chile) won't work. Like I said, It's a game now based on war and they need someone locally they can easily attack - sadly, that is us.
I disagree. We are in a perfect position to create a safe economic core for our allies.
"Scottty sai😛 You do realize that the biggest hitters of eAustralia are backing Tim_Holtz and his government. How will we win battles without them?"
You are one person Scottty and guess what you don't seem to be winning any battles single handed.
1 week of this Gov and they are yet to back any of the claims they used to get into office. Tim should have been impeached immediately for getting elected because of the APP PTO...
I wonder how long elected senators will wait before making the call they have to make.
@Larni: What claims has he failed to back, please refer to his articles. Also why would he be impeached for such a thing, I thought it happened before he was elected? Wouldn't the public have already decided that issue when they chose to elect him instead of MC?
not at all Val, APP two clicker population would have voted for him as their endorsed candidate by default. So the PTO of that party gave Tim what minimum 15 votes?
They spent all last month undermining the Gov and made all kinds of claims about what they could accomplish. So far they have done nothing. You would expect... well I expect the Gov to hit the ground running. I certainly expected something.
So what promises that got him elected specifically has he not followed through on?
Also, its not like MC couldn't have pm'd those players lol, bad excuse is a bad excuse.
Larni you and your little group did the same thing to gregs government, so please don't start with the undermining bs.
2 Clickers gonna 2 click, their fault not Tims.
Excellent article Mr Crumpets
"So please don't start with the undermining bs."
Start what? I've got no intention of going to the trouble you people did to get Tim elected. He is failing miserably all on his own, certainly needs to help from outside sources.
How is he failing? He's only been CP for about a week.
I would also like the answer to the question Val asked twice already. What promises that got him elected specifically has he not followed through on?
what did he actually promise?
so Who want be friend with Chile and CoT 2 months ago? and Who was louder gvt member in McGregors gvt with proCoT stance , answer is Tim Holtz ("we need to play smart and logic" he said then)
Now check results of "smart and logic play" where you leave old allies and sleep with enemies: Australia is 10-15% down in number of citizens, average daily damage,etc... with no respect from friends and enemies
Well he promised a different result in the MoFA team with his guys and certainly implied he had a lot more influence with CoT than he apparently has. Not that I have the articles in front of me, nor can I be bothered looking but didn't he say something about articles? keeping people up to date? keeping his Gov actions all out in the open?
Granted we all know he promised a load of nonsense but isn't there a point when being CP actually means following through with things? I know XG had articles coming out every few days. Greg not so much, Ranger had them consistently as well.
"how did it feel when you backstabbed India? how about turkey with iran?" India and Croatia are still friends, all issues come from Indian MoFA who is Serbian player, Turkey and Iran resolve their problems too
but you know that
alimilano, you are right Croatia is a golden child. perfect in every way, the serbs are evil bad people. its right because you say it is
we Aussies are just stupid for not wanting to be part of the wonderful and amazing EDEN who are perfect in every way. is that what you want me to believe?
i was in EDEN HQ for a couple months, i saw CROATIAN as well as other players ruining the alliance and pushing it to the ground. dont feed me that dribble
Australia is the most forever alone country in the game... it's just something about traitors...
Where I said Croatia is golden child? Where I said Serbs are bad people? Where I said Australians are stupid people? Time to stop with your spins, and confess FAIL with proCoT stance.
read again: "we gonna do everything to you dont have congress, we dont gonna sign another treaty, and the arbitration is gonna be our last meeting "
Interesting attitude fro Alessandri considering that if the arbitration comes out in Aus's favour, and Australia cannot come to a gentleman's agreement with Chile, then Chile gets wiped by CoT, USA and Brazil.
But we all already know CoT are liars with no respect for their word... so Chile knows it has nothing to worry about.
Right now, MPP whoever we like. The more Bro the better. Indonesia and Chile have absolutely no reason to talk to a disarmed Australia. Time to cash in that other thing we do really, really well:
be awesome mates.
Mr C keep releasing excellent article and starting good discussions. We need this.
Australia in Asgard?
I know CoT isn't working out, and likely wouldn't work out for you guys. However... Asgard? It just doesn't make sense. Not only is Asgard a regional alliance, but it likely does not have the power to hold off Australia's foes. The combined force of Asgard, as it currently stands, is not that much stronger than Indonesia.
If you want to look long term, I would recommend attempting to cozy up to TWO. As EDEN falls, CoT and TWO will likely meet on the the battlefield, after nations realign. Considering that you are surrounded by CoT nations that want your land, your best bet would be garnering protection as a member nation of TWO.
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Likely-smikley. EDEN has been rumoured to be disintegrating for nearly as long as they have existed and CoT and TWO have been rumoured to be circling for war since EPIC became CoT. Our needs are current and not some phantasmal future that probably will never be realised.
CoT and TWO are too interlinked with MPPs to be useful to anyone except current members of CoT and TWO. The list of non-aligned countries is long. We don't expect anyone to come to our aide. We accept that everyone is busy surviving CoTWO. Our needs a simple.
Australia need battles for our Daily Orders and countries who appreciate the help we can bring. You know; a little appreciation and purpose.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/tim-holtz-your-government-2210499/1/20
I think both sides have dramatically over estimated the political potency of endorsements. On party numbers MC should have bolted in, but he didn't. So if there's a debate to be had based on truth, it can be argued that some of the members of the opposition parties (ARP, GGP, ANP) voted for Tim. KH is a nice shot in the arm, but I don't see any electoral math supporting a huge jolt from APP.
@So Larni in other words he hasn't broken/failed any promises yet, cause he didn't mention any of those in his articles.
Guys, you need a big BB right now, and in a few months you will be ready to join any alliance you want.
Baby Booms are a myth used to hide multies. Use it as a mantra and you'll focus on probable solutions.
"I think both sides have dramatically over estimated the political potency of endorsements. On party numbers MC should have bolted in, but he didn't. So if there's a debate to be had based on truth, it can be argued that some of the members of the opposition parties (ARP, GGP, ANP) voted for Tim. KH is a nice shot in the arm, but I don't see any electoral math supporting a huge jolt from APP." ANP didn't support MC, with the alignment the way it was, Tim should have bolted in. KHMC, ACP, APP = 143 where as ARP and GGP = 92 even if you counted the ANP who didn't officially endorse MC then it = 133
Math, learn it!
Let's face facts, ANP came down on MC's side. Our of the few actives they have, Reximus and Infin were big MC supporters. The ANP Councillors have a huge influence in the way the party is directed. I know - I was 2x their PP.
So sure - let's learn maths.
ARP 58 + ANP 41 + GGP 34 = 133
vs
KH 76 + ACP 30 + APP 33 = 139
A difference of 6 votes. ^ Which not for nothing accurately represents the CP election margin that came in by 5.
Better luck next time champ.
so the fact that you said that MC had the numbers, where were you basing that information from, because even using your numbers there was no distinct advantage to MC was there? The fact that the ANP may have had some higher level supporters doesn't mean that the two clickers would have known, so while you could count some of the players, not all of them would have known the party supported MC.
But anyway, the point being, there was no advantage to MC, which is what I was trying to prove in my post more than anything.
Party's should just stop endorsing people all together, let people vote for who they want.