Coalition, a Take
TheSmoke
Hey everyone, so I just wanted to put out a little opinion piece on coalitions and where I see them in Canada. First off congratulations on the 3 parties for coming together as a unit to add a “third” voice to Canadian Politics. It requires a lot of trust, and some negotiating to reach a common goal together.
So where does the need of a Coalition come from? Often it is a force to add a strong enough voice to several smaller factions or groups, and as such that is what it seems like is happening now. My understanding is that there is a need to offer a 3rd and viable choice to the MDP or CPF led environment. I see this as a very good thing on paper, as constructive input, more options, and more involvement are often beneficial to any political sphere. But where does the need from each individual party come from? On a congressional level, a Coalition does not really change much in terms of Congressional elections, as each individual party within the coalition will most likely vote for themselves, unless there are not enough proposed candidates for a certain party and extra votes would be wasted. Also, a well-constructed Coalition and Policy(s) may convince the small group of independent voters to vote for a party within the Coalition.
Within Congress a said Coalition can use its collective weight to help move votes or policies in a certain direction, that is, when said Coalition has a clear and outlined policy and goals they wish to reach. The thing is, within eRep politics, the ideas of Liberal, Conservative, right wing, left wing, back hand and five hole, are all just fancy titles that really don’t have much meaning. I wish they did, as it would make things more interesting, but look at the Hippy like CPF party, and you will see Klop and I taking on huge roles to ensure Canada is a war machine. Seems counter intuitive, but that’s because political labels are nerfed in this game.
What does the PFC gain from a Coalition? I would hope pushing our community to be more inclusive to our French players. Also there was a recent event regarding 3 CS approvals, in which at least one member suggested large changes to the IC would be coming. Other than that though, I do not know exactly what issues are unique and dire to the PFC that they need collective support to try and change.
What does the IW gain from a Coalition? The Imperial Wolves have always been easy to work with before, they offer some solid Congress members, and I am happy to work with Punisher, Darkmos, Oinyo etc. The thing is, I don’t know what exactly the IW’s stand for in terms of general policy etc other than perhaps the removal of the eCan forums. This is something I do not agree with, because I believe open discussion is valuable. Since there has been next to nothing in terms of political debate or discussion coming from the IW through in game articles, it would seem that they are already too lazy to do it in game, so any removal of the forums would just crush further open and free discussion.
Lastly is SUFFER, a new party with a lot of steam to try and lead them to the top. Since they are such a young party, a solid foundation of core values and beliefs has not yet been established. Let’s see where they go from here.
So from my understanding, there are no huge issues that any of the 3 parties need to rally together to change. Do both SUFFER and the PFC wish to remove the forums? Instead, what I think is happening is simple a desire to have more power. We in the CPF are quite used to be called the hippy elites, and I am sure many will want to remind us of that in the comment section (thanks in advance) but my sweet fuck, do you honestly think the country just runs itself? There are many bad apples in Congress, some of which come from the CPF, I fully know that and want to change that. But at the end of the day, to get where we are, people need to do work. From the coalition there are some really solid people, but most of what I am hearing about Canada’s current situation is excuses. We suck here because the CPF is too big, and we suck there because the MDP is too bull headed.
In order for this Coalition to move forward, it has to offer actual goals, actual change, and to then follow through with it. As Chochi made note, there is nothing stopping anyone from moving forward here. Propose your tax change ideas, alliance switches, MPPs, Training Programs, MU funding, War Funding, Immigration changes or whatever else through in game articles. See what the Canadian population wants, what they are looking for, then do the work needed and provide it for them. If we look at the evil forums, the PFC made only one topic (today) and SUFFER (DMV) has made 2 topics, again everything else is from the CPF or MDP. If you can refer me to said discussions that took place through PMs or Articles here, then I will add them, but you can see that it is not a very open means of dialogue.
In all, these are my general thoughts to this Coalition, and of past Coalitions as well. I am sure many will take this article as an attack, or some elitist jargon etc. but I am an active player here and this is what I see. There is good potential for you guys, I honestly think so, but as I said about Prince Sheogoraths party, if you want to get somewhere, you have to work for it. Heck Rylde gave me his login info incase Canada needed something, look back several months ago and that would have never happened, but we worked together for a common goal, and that is for our Country.
Let’s continue our work to keep Canada great!
TheSmoke
Comments
Rylde would have never gave you his log in info.
Canada says fix the game on the other hand....
Canada says fix the game voted a comment I wrote. Rylde would never be caught dead doing so!
3 cheers for Canada says fix the game
This basically sums up my thoughts as well. Great piece Smoke, voted!
Are yewz twins? 😁
Forums, IRC, Skype, etc are used for the convenience of people. It is a matter of personal preference as well. I am a fan of technology. Use all the above.
Discussions - There needs to be a bit of redundancy when it comes to documenting things.
Forums are very helpful to archive information for posterity. But ingame media is vital for keeping the majority of the players psyched. Logging into some other site is a bit of a put-off for people. IRC can be very helpful for getting to know people better. Skype yeah fun, can do radio shows and stuff.
You can also use FB, twitter, pinterest, etc 😃
How is all this party determined though? Atleast my party doesn't conform to any stereotype. Open to everyone, all kinds of individuals, extroverts, introverts, demons, God, devils, vampires, psychos, sociopaths, mental ones, sexy ones, gays, pretend gays, straight people, pretend straight people, women, men, transgender etc yeah all are welcome to SUFFER!
Aim - World Domination lol
I agree, when I first started playing I didn't care to use the forums or IRC, but if you want to get more involved in the community, it is a really good way to. And yes forums are great for keeping records, cause in game articles are horrible to try and reference. I did a few podcasts way back when, perhaps it would be fun to do some more with people.
I am not saying party determined, but unless there are some things to separate one party from another, then what is the point in segregating ourselves into smaller parties?
You should know the answer to that TheSmoke...
There is no point in segregating anything. That is why we have a very profound saying in Dioism
We are Dio, You are Dio, I am Dio.
What is the point in creating smaller parties? What is the point in creating bigger parties? Hey your CPF member is also in SUFFER international thread. I don't discriminate. I am happy to work with anybody and everybody that is reasonable.
SUFFER will rise once the existing Canadian conditions are changed in a way to get the infrastructure right. No point in me bringing in quality players if they are not utilized.
Retention is my issue. I can sell snake oil and get people in. Problem is I don't want to sell snake oil. I am very high on ethics. I need to give them an environment to help them shine.
You bring up some good points. I shall offer some solutions in my article probably. Also love that idea of podcast.
I don't believe you would be asking that question if DMV had become PP of your party.
Indeed.
"The Imperial Wolves have always been easy to work with before, they offer some solid Congress members, and I am happy to work with Punisher, Darkmos, Oinyo"
Oinyo is in our party...
Yea for like the past week or so
Right now he is, but for a long time Oinyo was one of the main people behind Clan Wolf
I think there might have been another in there too. Squirelwater I believe.
"one of" not "only"
Well said
SUFFER will establish Islam in Canada for the greater good o/
Frenchie you Is lame 😃
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Fantastic read. However this may seem spooky but I had a dream about this article...in my dreams though it had lots of oiled up naked women...and less words...
Losers like you dream behind those that do. Nothing spooky about that.
Awwww...you mad? You should charge me rent for constantly being in that small head of yours 😉
SUFFER WILL PREVAIL
Something like this remark makes no sense to me. One immediate question is prevail over what? I'm not being smart. I'd like a specific point or list of point that SUFFER will prevail over. I could possibly come to a sensible understanding if I knew what the goal is.
Please don't go on about how they will liberate everyone from the oppressive elites. With the coalition proposing that a board be in charge of telling your Congress people how to vote they have effectively became elite.
thats intelligents questions bro, i was just advertising for suffer 🙁
Sorry... Didn't mean to put you off. 😃
Carry on by all means.
I have not one problem with a coalition. I do indeed hope that PFC becomes more openly vocal. I've pushed for that in the past. IW has good people that I enjoy working with. SUFFER may be OK but prove little to me if the think Dennis is the saviour of Canada. No offence but I thought we were trying to get rid of the UF not rebuild it. I was told how bad the Shaved Beavers were. ha ha Jokes on me I guess.
o7
MDP is "too bullheaded?" Goddamn hippie elite! DOWN WITH THE MOOSE!
He's quoting rumors 😛
Jeepers Xander, I hate hippies as much as the next guy, but we mustn't be so...bullheaded...
My thoughts exactly, we have to be open minded to different forms of oppression.
You can never have enough of it, after all.
Wait, IW wants to get rid of the Canada forums? They now have my vote for life.
o7
Nicely written.
I fundamentally believe that a strong and vibrant political environment, that provides options for inclusivity and hence a way for everyone to get involved is better for the game and makes a nation more attractive to players and their families. Always has. The formation of the coalition has created a surge of energy and enthusiasm. I hope to see ongoing robust debates across MDP, CDF and The Coalition, creating a kind of Canada that people want to get involved in.
We will never get the "old days" back, but we can at least have a little fun fiddling with what we have.
DMV is just using this as an opportunity to jumpstart a cp run.