Christmas in Armenia
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by ChievoKevin
Christmas in Armenia
Despite what the title says, this has nothing to do with Christmas, but rather, Christmas day.
That morning, the 6th of January, I was unable to access eRepublic, because of lack of electricity. A friend phoned me to say that another resistance war had started in Armenia. My first thought was, who would start another hopeless resistance war?
At noon, when I could access eRepublic again, I immediately looked at the war, and wonder of wonders, we were winning ! ! !
WOW, the battlefield was full of Polish players; some of them citizens of Armenia, some others former citizens of Armenia, and most I did not recognize.
Hummm
Good news? or Bad news?
Well, to determine that, we need to go back a few months, in fact, to the days of the initial invasion. During that period, the Country Order of the Day (COD) was obviously Armenia, right? After all, our country was under attack, right?
WRONG ! For almost three days, our COD was centered on Poland, and only on the last day was it switched to Armenia. Interesting priorities for our president, don’t you think, since the Polish seem to love us so much, and the president at the time was Polish?
Since the invasion, and disregarding the last Resistance War, we had two other Resistance Wars.
Certainly, you might think, since our President was of Polish Origin, and the RW’s were opened upon his request, the members of the Polish contingent would hit hard, no?
Well, not really; here are the Patriot Points of our Polish Compatriots which I could check at the time:
As you can see from the screenshot, just about half of them fought in most wars,,including the last RW and got their patriot points, and about half of them did not fight at all.
EXCEPT
Well except for our president elect, kacper5422, who, as you can see, suddenly remembered that he was an Armenian citizen (and leader of the Polish group in Armenia), changed his mind about being a spectator, and hit about 450 million damage, and managed to get a few Battle Hero medals. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but why now? I guess patriotism had an effect, but patriotism for which country? I will let you, the reader, reach your own conclusion.
I would like to remind our president that we were discussing the opportunities of opening a dialogue with the Turkish government, regarding the return of our territories. What does he think of the possibilities now? Personally, I think the chances are less than that of a snowball in Hell, but then again, what do I know? He is the master statesman.
On another, somewhat related subject, I asked our former president, sprobuj inaczej
to publish a short article, an explanation of the Armenian Treasury and the expenses during his stay in the presidency, like his predecessor did, and he promised to do that.
Two days passed, and not a peep. I guess the Armenian treasury had so much activity, we need an army of accountants to get an accurate status of our finances. Let me try to help: support for two resistance wars, 19,000 cc (I refused to accept 1,000 from the bank), plus 25,000 cc for the Combat Order. Surely, as president he must know how much money he inherited from his predecessor, and how much he left to his successor?
I think enough food for thought.
I will appreciate both your serious comments, and non-serious comments for the mission
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Pretty good.
What was the result of previous RWs? 88-0?
It's bad idea to waste our damage in resistance wars that don't have any chance of success.
I also would like to remaind you, that you closed the dialogue with us before the elections and didn't answer me after them (as well as Chievo and leader of NAP, Mitko).
How about dialogue with the Turkish government? I've already talked with Turkish CP, tahaua. He is positive about returning our regions, as Turkey does not receive any benefit from this occupation.
So you are right:
"what do I know?"
I didn't open the previous RW's, your predecessor did; so any argument about our chances should be with him, not me.
As for our dialogue, this is your group's usual tactic, confuse the issues., I didn't close it before elections, you simply stated your refusal. After? There is nothing to talk about.
Well, there was a great opportunity to start that rw. Turks were fighting in 4 other rw's our was 5th. They suprised me when they put us on COD. It was strange, because our regions are worthless for them.
sprobuj, where is the article that you promised you will write about Armenia's money how it was used and where, we know about 19,000 was used to start 2 RWs + 25,000 was used for CO, but the calculations doesnt match comparing the money we have now, please clarify yourself.
"What was the result of previous RWs? 88-0?
It's bad idea to waste our damage in resistance wars that don't have any chance of success."
If you knew it was nonsense, then why you used 19k to start the RWs, + 25k for CO..... and we are still waiting from your predecessor an article about our treasury with detailed calculations and expenses.
Read comment of sprobuj. Turkey was in very difficult situation, so it was worth trying. But when they put us on CotD, we didn't have any chanses.
I read ... and... ?
It simply shows ignorance about history.
And still, as usual you ignore the other points raised; the missing COD during the invasion, and treasure accounting.
Well, I should not expect any different; confuse and obfuscate.
"And still, as usual you ignore the other points raised"
Well, I could say exactly the same to you. You accuse me of something and when I prove you're wrong, you forget about it. Here, same as in our last PM.
You should ask person who was the president at this time. But for me it's obvious. This war was lost at the beginning.
Again, I just begun my term and I will not provide you accouting from previous months.
Since you are polish leader in Armenia, then ur previous CP candidate should write for what we spent our money as Newstolemy di😛
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/na-zako-czenie-2475497/1/20
First of all, I did not accuse you of anything; I simply stated facts, so you did not prove anything wrong; 3 wars you did not participate in, one war you participated. Where was I wrong?
But this brings forward a question, You knew those 3 would fail, but this one would succeed? (oops, this didn;t succeed either) What was the source of this information? Oh yeah, your "higher command" where your loyalties lie.
As for the financial accounting, they are not demanded of you, they are being requested of your predecessor, who, in your own words, rather than answering, is "trolling" but in a rather artless way.
"You knew those 3 would fail, but this one would succeed?"
I think you already answered for it in your article.
"WOW, the battlefield was full of Polish players; some of them citizens of Armenia, some others former citizens of Armenia, and most I did not recognize."
Why the hell do you think we won few first minis? Because we had forgein help, which made it possible.
My last sentence wasn't needed, but as
I can see, you have the problem with figuring out some obvious facts.
"And still, as usual you ignore the other points raised; the missing COD during the invasion, and treasure accounting."
You wrote that I ignored treasure accouting and now you say that this is not demanded from me. I think you lost your logical thinking.
I wrote comment about trolling just because I was afraid that you wouldn't get it 😒
I guess Sorsha taught you well : your first response is to imply the other side is an idiot.
You are welcome to think whatever you wish of me, that won't change what I am, and I am immune to insults.
But please try to improve your reading skills; both in the article and in the comments, my main thrust was the lack of COD during the initial invasion, which everybody prefers to ignore. (of course, you knew it was hopeless, so no need for even a symbolic COD)
The finance subject was a side issue, which was clear in the article; which one of us seems "not to get it" ?
Dear Koko,
as you know we had no chance in fight against Turkey and its 19 mpps. They turned out to be traitors, they broke our mutual protection pact and treacherously attacked us. So yes, we surrendered Armenia. We didn't put CO, we didn't put COTD, because there was no sense to put any resistance to the Turkish traitors. Easy victories do not bring satisfaction. We set low taxes so Armenian people do not pay a lot of money to invaders. They have no economic bonuses from keeping Armenia's regions.
There was a time to dialogue with the Turkish government and this time has passed. They had many opportunities to give Armenia back they regions, which are useless for them, but they waste it. Now Armenian core regions become real problem for them. In last RW they spend a lot of more money on CO than Armenia and they will spend more money in next RWs, because of high determination factor. Armenia lost this RW but other RWs in Turkey was successful. Armenia is too small to fight against Turkey in open war, but it can be real thorn in their a.. It can be exhaustive and expensive for them drain war.
This is my private opinion but I think that after months of occupation Armenian society is rather not in the mood to talk with Turks. I bet they want to taste turkish tears and blood. You have one of the best Polish exMOD as CP and I'd call it as a good start. You want to have freedom, fight for it. Do not beg on the knee Turkish traitors for mercy.
Sorsha? Beg? Beg for a bunch of pixels on a screen? You don't know me at all, do you?
As an aside, despite your warlike talk, I'm aware of what's transpiring behind the scenes.
As for the best Polish MOD? You are welcome to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsaLuJNPobs
The better president would be the one weeping to his Turkish friends: they didn't support me in cp elections! they're polish pto. erase Armenia from the map! You can write whatever you want about Polish players, but truth is obvious: we support Armenia even if we aren't members of this country. Can you say the same about former Armenians from your party? No, they fought for Turkey in this rw.
You have the better cp than you deserve. Respect him.
We did not ask help from Poland, you made urself guests without invitation, go back to ur countries before u get wiped once again.
Your comment is such a non-sequitur, it does not deserve an answer
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I don't remember, monies coins currency. I had to paid myself for beeing also cp and prime minister. Double earnings with rewards, you know.
So you will wait for this article 😃 My earnings doesn't take into account articles writing 😃
Pay yourself? what is that supposed to mean ?
Typically you are saying that you stole over 30k from Armenia's money.
" I will appreciate both your serious comments, and non-serious comments for the mission"
How come he is joking when about 30,000 cc is missing.
Please tell me you are joking
Trolling is an art 😉
But still he cant explain where is other 25-30k disappear.
You call stealing = trolling ?
Yup that's exactly what I meant
interesting we have another thief as CP.
And idiot as a runner-up in elections? I hope I'm wrong...
In my pocket Chievo.
God help. I'm kind of rich in erepublik (why not in rl life 😢 ) because I'm staying in d3 and hunting for bh's, especially for this 10x. I'm not working but I have ~20 saltpeter raw companies, If you really want I can do some charity and dissolve one or two of them and support our ct. I lost too much money for starting rw and then for paying for CO and it is my bad but I'm sure you would do the same as me.
In fact, when I was starting first rw, I couldn't find ppl who wanted to support it. So after 1,5h of searching I asked my girlfriend If she could do it from hers account. I didn't want to get banned because of that we were having the same ip adress so I didn't donated 1k cc to her. => ct owe to me 1k cc 😁
Mislead, change subject, say anything but facts.
Easy solution
Money you started with = A
Money you ended with = B
A-B = expenses
support for RW1 = C
Support for RW2 = D
CO for RW2 = E
C + D + E = expenses
the two answers ought to be equal
simple arithmetic
If you do not know the answers to A or B, for A ask your predecessor, for B ask your successor
A = 315 k
B = ~260-270k
C = 10 k or 15k
D = 25 k + 8 k
E = 0
The money the ended up with B is 246136.95 not 260-270.... thief.
Amazing ! ! !
How can C = 10 or 15 K?
10 people supporting RW x 1000 = 10K
how can there be a question about it?
D = 8 or 9 K
E = 25K
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Merry christmas
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Well, we have never met before, but "piece of shit" is a very nice beginning. In my opinion you should take care of Ministry of Forgein Affairs, if Chievo will ever win the election...
I was absent. If I was online, I would be there, by I have also a real life, which is none of your buissness.
What is more, you were not included in our last PM, so you have nothing to say about who closed the dialogue.
You know where I am from. So I doubt that you know who the gypsy is.
At the beginning you call me "a piece of shit" and than you say about my level. I think that you should think about yours, instead of insulting me like angry kid.
First, unlike you, I'm not seeking of any political seat. So, being free as a bird, I have the luxury of speaking as I wish, and you have the right to report me if you feel offended.
Second, keep your childish excuses for people who have the same IQ with you and they can swallow any crap you throw at their face.
Third, you must feel like a genuine VIP to believe that I give a shit for what you're doing in your real life. I never asked what you did, I only pointed that you were absent (obviously because you HAD to be absent).
Forth, the term "gypsy" does not only indicate the specific race (Roma) but most of the times is used to describe people who think and act like you. If you still wonder about the term, you obviously lack of self-awareness.
Last, it's not my fault if you felt offended, it's your attitude. I do not insult people, I just describe them.
Well I think ther's no point in this "discussion" 😉
Polish as usual... thinks armenias' money are their own money..
dont forget.. you can use some of the cc you stole from the tournament and still have more to support like 50 more RW.
Nice article. I guess Polish once again show that they can't be trusted.
Since kacper mentioned me in his comment, i must say that as ElRoi stated above, we have meeting on IRC, but there wasn't representative of Polish players. (it was suspicious for me, but a) I guess it was good for staling till the day of elections.
Moreover KokoAp tell me that he is still talking with kacper over the agreement after the negotiations broke, or better be said, Polish players sudenly refuse the agreement.
In that case i can't take any side it is thing between Armenian and Polish players.
Any way if the RW was succesfull , how far would we go?
Will POland garantee our freedom?
Since Turkey is neighbour , only way for Armenia to exist isif POland give as few regions. We can AS Poland and there we can exist , and figth together with our Polish protectors.
This is all my private opinion, and not official position of NAP.
Nobody suddenly refused the agreement. We agreed to it, but not to the change proposed by NAP. Than, Koko wrote that we have nothing to talk about. End of story.
So now it looks like we (NAP) are only one to blame for unsuccessful agreement. Nobody told me that. So we are to be blamed for your candidacy for president. I think that if we have comunicated on that problem , we will show maturity and undesrtanding, and let the Polish candidate to be next candidate after Armenian. Now we are in the same sitaution as before 3 months. As i stated during the negotiations, our goal is free Armenia, with governement based on fair play, cooperation, and trust. I don't see anything of this right now.